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Post by fubard on Jan 25, 2015 1:20:45 GMT
Hi, this may seem silly but Ive read a few posts and the product descriptions and am still unsure if midi bridge is what I need or not.
I'm looking for a way to send midi from my iPad to my macPro. I have some cool sequencers and an awesome chord progression app I'd love to use by sending midi via the 30pin USB cable. It's obvious I could so this with a 30pin to midi cable into my midi interface, but then the battery dies. Since midi via usb has been going on for ages now it seems absolutely insane that I shouldn't be able to do this. I'm not really finding any relevant help online so far either. I CANT be the first person to try this hahahah. I mean theres a USB connection built right on this!
Basically if I bought MidiBridge, would it allow me to send midi to my computer to directly control my daw through the 30pin USB wire without an expensive hardware intermediary?
Thanks!!!
-Stu
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Post by nic on Jan 26, 2015 10:14:54 GMT
Hi fubard, Short answer is 'not right now' Here is the long answer: Both the iDevice and Mac/PC are USB masters, so this should mean they don't see each other for USB connectivity, yet we all know an iPad can be connected and synced with a Mac/PC. To do this, Apple have a separate 'special' channel to do this. It appears that Apple have made available the tools to allow developers to make use of this channel so a developer can produce an app on an iDevice that can talk to another app on a Mac/PC and exchange data between them over the USB channel. Whether they envisaged that this could be used for MIDI is unclear, but although the technology is there whether Apple will 'clamp down' on apps (for whatever reason) is still a distinct possibility so one would need to tread carefully. I am looking into this so there may well be something in the future if the technology can be used reliably for MIDI data (ie. latency and throughput are consistent) and if I am game to gamble on whether such apps will be permitted to exist by Apple... Regards, Nic. |
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Post by kyle76 on Feb 19, 2015 5:14:39 GMT
Nic, can two idevices talk to each other using MidiBridge? It would be great if I could have the BlueBoard app open on my phone while I use Loopy or an amp simulator on my iPad. Having BlueBoard on the phone would allow me to always know which bank of switches I was in.
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Post by nic on Feb 19, 2015 8:51:08 GMT
Hi kyle76, Yes but only via wifi. Both devices need to be on the same local network and then what you do is to run up MidiBridge on both devices. On the iPhone, create a route from BlueBoard to Network out and add the Stream Byter rules into the BlueBoard as before. Switch to the Preferences pane in readiness for the next step Run up MidiBridge on the iPad (you don't need any routings/module configurations at all) and switch over to the Preferences pane and look for the green text underneath the bottom of the Host/IP Address field. It will be a set of four numbers, probably something like 192.168.1.102 Back on the iPhone, enter the four numbers and dots into the Host/IP Address field and press the Connect button. Both devices will connect and you should get dialogs on each device to that effect. Once connected, you can background MidiBridge on each device. Finally, in Loopy on the iPad adjust its MIDI settings to read from the network port. It is probably called something like 'Network Session 1' or similar. That's it. BlueBoard events get adjusted on the iPhone, sent out via wifi and Loopy receives them directly from the wifi port. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by kyle76 on Feb 19, 2015 14:47:09 GMT
Sounds a little complicated, but I'll give it a try when i get a chance. Pretty cool!
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Post by kyle76 on Feb 19, 2015 19:06:22 GMT
Nic, your instructions are not working for me. When I connect on the iPhone, I get a dialogue box that a connection has been made, but nothing on the iPad, and the phone tells me the connection is lost after about 10 seconds. Is there anything I need to do on the iPad other than get the IP number from it?
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Post by nic on Feb 19, 2015 20:42:40 GMT
Hi kyle76, Nope, that is all you need. The disconnect after 10 seconds is the symptom that a connection could not be made in the first place. Both devices need to be on the same local wifi network. In some very bizarre circumstances I have encountered people with routers that block peer connections but this is unlikely. If you go to the Preferences page on both devices what are the IP addresses for each? That might give me a clue. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by kyle76 on Feb 19, 2015 20:54:32 GMT
I'm trying this on my office network, where there very well may be some firewalls that are interfering. I'll try it at home tonight and see if I have better luck.
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Post by nic on Feb 28, 2015 19:04:28 GMT
Hi fubard, Short answer is 'not right now' [ ... snip ... ] I am looking into this so there may well be something in the future if the technology can be used reliably for MIDI data (ie. latency and throughput are consistent) and if I am game to gamble on whether such apps will be permitted to exist by Apple... Regards, Nic. Hi fubard, Feels funny quoting myself, but the 'I am looking into this...' was a bit disingenuous. Myself and the devs behind apps like Midi Designer and MIDImorphosis and Apollo have been working away on just that. It seems that at least two other teams have been also so this past fortnight sees the release of 3 of these solutions to this problem. We've just released ours here: Music IO MIDI over USB
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