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Post by steve on Sept 22, 2014 20:46:52 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to find a way to use my blueboard to control track muting in Auria.
My signal chain is electric bass -> line6 sonicport -> audiobus
then in audiobus I have two parallel (at least) channels which end up in separate tracks in auria. What I want to be able to do is use a footswitch on the blueboard to be able to toggle between them to select one (or more) of the paths while muting the others, simultaneously.
I read on another thread where Nic has used stream byter to control the Auria transport functions, and wondered whether it could be extended to my application.
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Post by nic on Sept 22, 2014 20:58:34 GMT
Pretty sure that could be doable. I seem to recall that Auria responds to the HUI protocol which I'm reasonably certain includes track muting. It would be a case of mapping the BB button presses to the appropriate HUI commands. I have both a BB and Auria and can take a look at this for you once I've resolved my iOS 8 woes. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by steve on Sept 22, 2014 21:06:43 GMT
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Post by nic on Sept 22, 2014 21:09:20 GMT
No I hadn't seen those particular HUI refs before. Thanks for the pointer.
I promise I will come back to this when I can.
Regards, Nic.
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Post by steve on Sept 22, 2014 21:13:53 GMT
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Post by nic on Sept 26, 2014 15:01:04 GMT
Hi steve, iOS8 update done so on to other things on my to-do list. Promise kept and I can report success after quite some experimenting! The following is working for me. First, set things up as follows: 1. Start BlueBoard app with BlueBoard connected and ensure in 'Control Change Mode' and that the 4 buttons are set to controllers 000, 001, 002 and 003 2. Start MidiBridge. Connect BlueBoard on left to MidiBridge on right (green line between them) 3. Touch beaker icon on BlueBoard port and select Stream Byter. Press On button and paste the following black magic into the edit box: # BlueBoard>Auria Toggle Mute
X1-F = XX +B
B0 = 90 00 7F +C
B0 = XX 0F X2 +C +D50
B0 = XX 2F 42 +C +D50
B0 00-0E = XX +BPress 'Install Rules' then Done and Done. 4. Start/switch over to Auria, select Menu>Settings>MIDI and select 'Receive Remote' for MidiBridge. Other defaults should not need changing (Remote Protocol: Mackie HUI, MMC Device ID: 1). Press X icon to dismiss menu and return to Auria mixer. Blueboard buttons 1 to 4 should hopefully now toggle mute on tracks 1-4 in Auria. Naturally there are only 4 buttons on the BlueBoard and more than 4 tracks in Auria. If you want to map the BlueBoard buttons to control a different track, the simplest way is probably just to change the button's controller number in the BlueBoard app. There is an intrinsic limitation in that this will only work for tracks 1 to 16. If you need to mute higher track numbers than that then the ruleset needs to be adjusted (rewritten). Believe me it will be easier to move the track(s) you want to control to track 1-4 than doing that. Let me know how you get on. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by steve on Sept 26, 2014 22:43:14 GMT
Hi Nic,
fantastic, I'm busy with gigs and rehearsals all weekend, but I'll get onto this next week. Tracks 1-4 in Auria will be fine.
cheers
Steve
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Post by steve on Sept 28, 2014 16:09:11 GMT
Hi Nic,
that works great thanks, is there a reference somewhere how to write our own rules? I'm keen to experiment with the external switches etc
cheers
Steve
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Post by nic on Sept 28, 2014 18:21:16 GMT
Believe it or not, the built-in manual covers everything about the Stream Byter in reference form, but it is very concise and exact. I did write a Guide To Stream Byter which may be a good place to start And this forum is full of Stream Byter dark magic. I designed the Stream Byter primarily for myself so I could augment MidiBridge 'in the field', but it has grown legs. I am always happy to write Stream Byter rules or check over any rules you write if you need it. I should add that I figured out the rules for this with trial and error and monitoring what a genuine HUI device was sending/receiving from Auria. It seems to require some sort of HUI 'heartbeat' and my rules are messing around with fudging that. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by steve on Oct 1, 2014 16:07:34 GMT
Hi Nic, thanks for that info. Without the benefit of having a HUI unit, I'm struggling to achieve what I think I now need.
I've added a latching footswitch and a vol pedal to the external inputs of the blue board, and the BB app is responding to both as would be expected. What I'm hoping to achieve is the following
Switch 1: Toggle of Solo Auria track 1 (of 4) - other tracks muted, or returned to their prev state when Solo is off
Switch 2: Mute Auria track 2
Switch 3: Mute Auria track 3
Switch 4: Mute Auria track 4
Ext 1 (vol pedal) : Master Volume
and if possible
Ext 2 (latching footswitch) toggle between 2 banks on the BB to then give me additional functionality for switches 1-4 and the vol pedal
what d'yu think? is it doable?
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Post by nic on Oct 1, 2014 16:20:36 GMT
Could be a tall order, but I won't know until I try. I'm afraid I have a huge amount on my plate this week, but I will come back to this next week and see what I can do.
Regards, Nic.
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Post by steve on Oct 1, 2014 16:51:13 GMT
That would be great Nic, thanks very much |
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Post by nic on Oct 8, 2014 11:58:43 GMT
Hi steve, Some progress on this. Controlling solo and toggling between two banks(scenes) with EXT2 is no problem. Controlling master volume via expression pedal is proving much more complex and I'm not sure if I can make this work, but I have a few ideas to experiment with. Stay tuned. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by nic on Oct 8, 2014 12:46:58 GMT
OK, I can control Auria faders via BlueBoard expression pedal. The problem is I cannot reliably select the fader group I need to control the master volume fader, since I haven't found a way to select a specific fader group - only next/previous and I don't know which one I am currently on. I will try and ping the Auria dev. and ask if they would share the incantation (if there is any) to select a specific group (pinged - awaiting reply).
If that isn't possible would it be helpful to you to use the expression pedal to control the fader of one of the tracks 1-8?
Regards, Nic.
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Post by steve on Oct 8, 2014 13:54:32 GMT
Hi Nic, thanks for your effort on this - it sounds like you've made a lot of progress.
Of all the things I was hoping for from this, the volume control was the most expendable. Controlling one of the track faders (or even a subgroup fader) would probably give me a similar outcome, or certainly other routes to achieve the desired result.
thanks again
Steve
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