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Post by andyh on Oct 13, 2014 15:59:44 GMT
I have MidiBridge on three devices, spanning iOS 5.1.1 (3rd gen iPod Touch), 6.1 (4th gen iPod Touch) and 7.1.1 (iPad3 - not updating, for now). I see the current page for it on the app store website now says it requires iOS 7, but I haven't had it on anything for very long, so until fairly recently, it was still available for iOS 5.
What would happen if I accidentally pressed the Update button for MidiBridge in the App Store app, in iOS 5.1.1 or iOS 6.1? Would I immediately lose the version I have? Some apps, including MidiBridge, show an Update button in the list of Purchased apps, though not in the Updates list.
I'm getting very nervous about updating apps on iOS devices. I now have a couple on my 3rd generation iPod Touch that appear to be permanently downloading, and if I tap on them, they start downloading again, but never finish, so I can't use them.
I understand that you don't support those versions of iOS any more, but some
companies allow us to download an older version, for older versions of
iOS. Do you do that?
I'm sure Apple would like us to throw away devices that still work just fine, and waste money on new ones to replace them, but not all of us are prepared to do that. Buy a new one, maybe; scrap the old one, no. If apps I've bought become unusable due to an update killing them, I'm likely to lose faith in the developer, not just Apple.
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Post by nic on Oct 13, 2014 16:25:13 GMT
Hi andyh, I'm pretty sure if you hit the 'update' button that it will tell you the latest version is for a later version of iOS and might prompt you to download latest version for the devices's iOS (which you probably already have). Long and short of it, I don't think anything nasty would happen, but don't hold me to that. The new iOS7/8 version of MidiBridge has a couple of minor bugfixes (that affected only a small number of people) and of course the iOS7/8 UI support, but other than that there is no difference between v1.58 (compatible to iOS4.3) and v.1.59 (recently updated version, iOS7+ only). Apple will let you install an older version of MidiBridge on a new device with iOS < 7 - it will deliver 1.58 to that device. Regards, Nic. |
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Post by andyh on Oct 14, 2014 1:58:13 GMT
Thanks, Nic. That's good to know.
I guess I should look into backing up apps and restoring them manually. That no doubt has problems of its own, but it's another thing I can try if it all goes wrong.
As it turns out, installing older versions of apps can stall, and that's what's happened to my 3rd gen iPod Touch. I found some advice for a similar problem, involving deleting the contents of the Downloads folder shown in iExplore (PC version). That didn't immediately help, but deleting them, twice, afterwards, from the iOS home page, did let me start again, and successfully download them.
I can't help wondering if Apple has a small but dedicated team trying to put us off keeping our older devices working, by constantly finding new ways to **** them up for us.
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Post by andyh on Oct 14, 2014 2:04:59 GMT
Is there a setting somewhere in this forum to automatically subscribe to threads I start, or reply to, and get notifications of replies by email?
Most forums I've used have that setting hidden somewhere, and usually it's not on by default, so I have to find it and turn it on. In this case, I can't see it anywhere, and I don't appear to be subscribed to the threads I started. I'm just having to check for replies by going back to the page, later.
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Post by nic on Oct 14, 2014 7:52:17 GMT
Click on 'Profile' on the top menu banner, then click on 'Edit Profile' button to the right, then click on 'Notifications' tab.
BTW. You're not wrong about Apple wanting to move us all into buying new hardware as much as possible. To develop apps you now *must* have MacOS X Mavericks and pretty much your machine needs to be less than 3 years old, so you are forced to buy more hardware and upgrade the operating system even though the hardware/os you have might be perfectly fine for everything else.
Regards, Nic.
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Post by andyh on Oct 14, 2014 15:20:56 GMT
Thanks, Nic. I was looking at the wrong Notifications, before. That's a big overhead for developers. Definitely not something I'd want to get into, then. I still do most things on Windows 2000, on an 11 year old motherboard  If absolutely necessary, I'll reboot into XP for a while, to run software I can't run otherwise. |
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Post by nic on Oct 14, 2014 17:45:45 GMT
I hear you on the 11 year old hardware!
The machine that runs my office (vpn, pabx, email, fileserver, firewall, ntp, dns, X10 automation) runs 24/7 and was manufactured in 1999. I could copy a binary executable off that machine to a brand spanking new model and know that it would run. That's from a company that takes reliability and backward compatibility seriously. (It's a Sun Netra T1 running Solaris for anyone mildy interested).
Regards, Nic.
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Post by joeleone on Dec 4, 2014 1:26:55 GMT
I bought the latest version of Midi Bridge, but I am unable to put it onto my ipod touch.
I need to know, if I can somehow get the older version on my device or somehow get my money back.
Every forum, video, said this was ipod touch compatible, but Itunes (knowing what ios i have) allowed me to buy it.
what can I do?
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Post by nic on Dec 4, 2014 9:41:10 GMT
What model iPod touch is it and what version of iOS are you running? What happens when you try to download it onto your iPod Touch?
Apple introduced the 'download most recent compatible version' within the last year or so but I think you need at least iOS 4 or 5 for this to work. MidiBridge 1.58 would run on iOS3 even (although it would only be useful if you have a Line6 Midi Mobilizer I) but only if Apple will support your device/iOS version for that feature.
Definitely make sure that your iPod Touch is running the highest version of iOS that it will support.
If upping your iOS version still won't play ball with the App Store, then you can obtain a refund via iTunes' 'Report a problem' option.
Regards, Nic.
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Post by joeleone on Dec 5, 2014 0:35:52 GMT
IPod Touch 4th Generation.
IOS 6 (highest version supported by this device, just updated the OS).
Thanks
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Post by nic on Dec 5, 2014 9:43:04 GMT
Hi joeleone, That combination is definitely supported. I just tried it myself on an iPod 4G running iOS6 and when I went to download it I got a message saying 'This app requires iOS7.0 would you like to download the most recent compatible version?'. I said Yes and it downloaded and installed version 1.58 (which is correct). Regards, Nic. |
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Post by forestcat on Jan 25, 2015 14:39:34 GMT
Hi nic,
Trying to purchase this on an iTouch 3rd gen, iOS 5.1.1 (most recent for this device). Getting message "This App requires iOS 7.0 or later". with no option to download an older version. Any ideas?
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Post by nic on Jan 25, 2015 22:12:54 GMT
Hi forestcat, Yeah, I encountered this too with a different app. In the end the only way I found to get around it was to purchase the app using an iOS 7 device or iTunes on a Mac or PC and then go back to the older device and then it will be available in the App Store on that device for download without that annoying message. Regards, Nic |
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Post by forestcat on Jan 26, 2015 14:14:59 GMT
Thanks! Worked perfectly. Would not have thought to try that.
A big THANK YOU for supporting older devices. There are a lot of us who still use them for a multitude of valid reasons. Apple, et al, are making that increasingly difficult to impossible.
RE: iTunes, AppStore, Apple, etc., always remember: "It just works"... Maybe in the pre-OS-X days it did, lol. Disclaimer: You can safely ignore all that if you're not old enough to remember that windows-bashing ad campaign :-)
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If absolutely necessary, I'll reboot into XP for a while, to run software I can't run otherwise.