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Post by klay2000 on May 24, 2021 21:26:22 GMT
Did you force-quit (swipe off screen) MIDIFire, or just put it in background? I swiped and force quit Midifire and still saw midi clock going through to the um1 So, you must have configured BandHelper to do that. You probably should not do that while you're trying to send notes and clocks from MIDIFire to UM-1. MIDIFire can combine signals and send them to an output port. But I think you should have only one app sending to a port. I will try this hopefully this week. Sorry I have been preoccupied with some other jobs I needed to do
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Post by klay2000 on May 24, 2021 22:00:30 GMT
This is all the gear I am incorporating into this setup
Tc Helicon voicelive 3 sending midi ccs to um-1 into Midifire which is converting the ccs to be useful for band helper remote control messages
Tc Helicon voicelive 3 is also connected to the um-1 output through a powered midi splitter to receive clock messages
I have an iPhone 6 with lightning adapter and permanent power from an apple 5v 2.1 amp genuine power supply
The BandHelper midi clock is routed to midi fire in a drop down menu of BandHelper settings page
The lighting controller (obey 40) connected to the um-1 output through a midi splitter is only intended to be reading note on messages on midi channel 13. It's having its lighting scenes triggered by pc change messages that select scenes in midi fire . One midi fire scene is intended to pulse quarter notes from clock messages converted to note on messages.
BandHelpers midi output goes to the um-1 which feeds other iPads and changes their display status per song using pc messages. Each song in BandHelper has a program change message msb lsb number which allows other iPads to receive this message so multiple iPads on stage change. The iPhone 6 is the master and all other iPads act as slaves.
The signal chain is tc vl3 (sending ch7) > um1 > iPhone 6 (using apple camera connection kit with permanent power) > BandHelper > Midifire > 2 x quad midi splitters (midi solutions brand) Midi splitter goes to these devices to receive messages ()
> obey 40 lighting controller (note on messages ch13) > td 20x Roland drums (midi clock ch10) > 2 additional iPads (pc messages ch1) > Tc vl3 (midi clock ch8 ) > ditto 4 (midi clock and cc messages ch4)
Everything works as intended. The only issue is simultaneous function of midi clock and the script in midi fire to pulse quarter notes of midi clock and convert them to note on messages.
Hope this all makes sense. If you have any questions please let me know. I will continue trying to get this to work this week
Thankyou
Clayton
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Post by klay2000 on May 31, 2021 12:07:15 GMT
Is there a way to pass note messages only on channel 13 to the obey 40 light controller and block everything else including clock on that channel. That's the only thing I can think of that might be a possible solution.
Is Nic still available to shed some light on this problem do you think?
Thankyou again
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Post by klay2000 on Jun 6, 2021 9:00:13 GMT
Hi Dave
I sent a message through to chauvet dj to ask if the obey 40 lighting controller pauses lighting scenes when receiving midi clock messages.
I'm waiting to hear back from them.
The event monitor as you confirmed does show both converted 1/4 notes and clock passing through (when block all message is deleted) So in other words technically it should work.
My guess is the obey 40 doesn't like the midi clock incoming messages. You can't block clock on a specific channel in my case channel 13 for the light controller so don't know what the solution is if they confirm that midi clock and the obey 40 are the problem
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Post by klay2000 on Jun 6, 2021 9:02:44 GMT
Also an important piece of information for you to know is it never worked with this configuration ever. I realised I was running midi clock totally separate on a beat buddy prior to this.
In reality this has never worked in the past using band helpers tempo to run both the lighting for the gig and the midi clock for the drummer.
Hope this all helps to explain the confusion and back n forth
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